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boksač  
#241 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:05:38 PM(UTC)
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Baš sam gledao dokumentatni film Muhammed & Larry o svemu što se događaloprije njihovog meča.
Ali je bio naveliko bolestan, sporije pričao, udarao je sporije i bolest je bila sve vidljivija.

Nije mi to jasno kako se uopće smio boriti a i nakon te borbe još je odradio jednu sa Berbickom i izgubio. Baš u filmu govore kako je ljudima oko njega trebala lova i da je to razlog.

Holmes se nakon borbe rasplakao zbog svega, užasno mu je bilo vidjeti svog idola takvim i posjetio ga je u bolnici a ovaj mu iz kreveta: Hoću Holmesa,hoću Holmesa
Prije borbe je pio oko 15 pilula dnevno, da mu bubrezi rade i da može funkcionirati i zaista mi je nejasno da je bilo te borbe.


Baš tužan kraj jedne tako velike i sjajne karijere. Uz Louisa po meni i natužniji kraj kod jednog boksača iz teške kategorije.
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#242 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:00:01 PM(UTC)
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Baš tužan kraj jedne tako velike i sjajne karijere.


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#243 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:58:33 PM(UTC)
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Po meni je George Foreman ili Rocky Marciano top Heavyweight Puncher i ako Louis, Dempsey,Tyson ili Frazier su strašni


I ja bi rekao Foreman
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#244 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:42:37 PM(UTC)
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Po meni je George Foreman ili Rocky Marciano top Heavyweight Puncher i ako Louis, Dempsey,Tyson ili Frazier su strašni


I ja bi rekao Foreman


Mislim da smo bili već govorili o tome. Za mene, najveći udarač za kojeg znam je Foreman, ono kad je skinuo Moorera je u ring donio sljedeće: višak kila, manjak kondicije, i nevjerovatnu sposobnost da primi jak udarac, i vrati još jači.

A, rekli smo da je najjači vjerovatno Ernie Shavers, jer su Ali, Norton i Lyle, koji su se tukli i sa njime, i sa Foremanom, tvrdili da niko ne udara kao Shavers.
Isto su ustvrdili i Holmes, Tex Cobb, i "Krvavica" Bugner, koji se bome naprimao batina.

Shavers je unesrećio mnoge ljude, imao je desnicu ravno iz pakla, a veliki Angelo Dundee je tvrdio da Shavers može nokautirati protivnika bilo kojim udarcem.

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#245 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:29:52 PM(UTC)
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Po meni je George Foreman ili Rocky Marciano top Heavyweight Puncher i ako Louis, Dempsey,Tyson ili Frazier su strašni


I ja bi rekao Foreman


Mislim da smo bili već govorili o tome. Za mene, najveći udarač za kojeg znam je Foreman, ono kad je skinuo Moorera je u ring donio sljedeće: višak kila, manjak kondicije, i nevjerovatnu sposobnost da primi jak udarac, i vrati još jači.

A, rekli smo da je najjači vjerovatno Ernie Shavers, jer su Ali, Norton i Lyle, koji su se tukli i sa njime, i sa Foremanom, tvrdili da niko ne udara kao Shavers.
Isto su ustvrdili i Holmes, Tex Cobb, i "Krvavica" Bugner, koji se bome naprimao batina.

Shavers je unesrećio mnoge ljude, imao je desnicu ravno iz pakla, a veliki Angelo Dundee je tvrdio da Shavers može nokautirati protivnika bilo kojim udarcem.



I bio je Dundee u pravu, Sheavers je iznimno zanimljiv boksac i steta da nije postao prvak a imao je predispozicije za tako nesto.
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#246 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:52:30 PM(UTC)
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#247 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:50:53 PM(UTC)
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http://www.amazon.com/Floyd-Patterson-A-Boxer-Gentleman/dp/0786439505/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1362151352&sr=8-3&keywords=floyd+patterson
Odlicna knjiga o njemu.


Za Pattersona je Ali ustvrdio da je najvještiji boksač s kojim se tukao. Inače, Patterson je bio učenik velikog Cusa D' Amata, kao i Tyson, puno poslije. Po meni, njegov najveći problem je bila brada. Nije imao bradu velikog šampiona, bez toga jednostavno nekad ne ide.




S ovime se slažem u potpunosti jer i sam to mislim. Možeš li mi samo dati neki izvor za tu izjavu, tražim ju posvuda po netu i knjigama koje imam ali je ne nalazim.
Ne sumnjam ja u to ali bi volio to čitati kao veliki fan Floyd Pattersona. Tehnika je definitvno najbolja kod Pattersona od svih njegovih protivnika.

Evo iz ove knjige Boxing list Alieve liste 10 najboljih u teškoj kategoriji i 12 najboljih protiv kojih se on borio, kao i 10 najboljih borbi u kategoriji.
10 najboljih iz teške je kronološki kako su bili prvaci a ova druge dvije su rang lista. To je iz 2008.

10 naj borbi
1.Joe Frazier vs Muhammad Ali 3
2.Joe Louis vs Max Schmelling 2
3.Jack Dempsey vs Louis Firpo
4.Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman
5.Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 1
6.Gene Tunney vs Jack Dempsey 2
7.Rocky Marciano vs Jersey Joe Walcott 1
8.Jack Johnson vs James J Jeffries
9.Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas
10.Joe Louis vs Billy Conn 1


10 naj boksača kronološki
Jack Johnson 1908-1915
Jack Dempsey 1919-1926
Gene Tunney 1926-1928
Joe Louis 1937-1949
Ezzard Charles 1949-1951
Jersey Joe Walcott 1951-1952
Rocky Marciano 1952-1955
Joe Frazier 1968-1973
George Foreman 1973-1974 -1994-1995
Larry Holmes 1978 - 1985

12 naj protivnika
1.Joe Frazier
2.George Foreman
3.Larry Holmes
4.Archie Moore
5.Ken Norton
6.Floyd Patterson
7.Henry Cooper
8.George Chuvalo
9.Sonny Liston
10.Leon Spinks
11.Chuck Wepner
12.Earnie Sheavers

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#248 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:45:58 AM(UTC)
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S kime se sve borio AliEmocija24
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#249 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:21:50 PM(UTC)
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Preporucio bi neke knjige koje imam u kolekciji, jako interesantno stivo za citati.


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#250 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:28:31 PM(UTC)
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#251 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:56:24 PM(UTC)
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Bas pogledo,nazalost prekratko traje ali odlicno za pogledat.
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#252 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:04:28 PM(UTC)
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Bas pogledo,nazalost prekratko traje ali odlicno za pogledat.


Također. Trajalo je cca pola sata i to je to.
"It's not checkmate. The king has one more move."
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#253 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:08:52 PM(UTC)
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Bas pogledo,nazalost prekratko traje ali odlicno za pogledat.


Također. Trajalo je cca pola sata i to je to.


Parlov je otac ignoriranja medija prema Mirku,a mi se na Mirka zalimo Emocija2

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Baš sam to komentirao s ukućanima. Čovjek je jednostavno volio živjeti u miru i tišini, daleko od medija i pozornosti. U usporedbi s Matom, Cro Cop je Marko Grubnić po pitanju privlačenja medijske pažnje. Emocija20
"It's not checkmate. The king has one more move."
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#255 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:30:00 PM(UTC)
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Baš sam to komentirao s ukućanima. Čovjek je jednostavno volio živjeti u miru i tišini, daleko od medija i pozornosti. U usporedbi s Matom, Cro Cop je Marko Grubnić po pitanju privlačenja medijske pažnje. Emocija20


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#256 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:13:33 AM(UTC)
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upoznao sam Matu Parlova, u ljeto 2004 u Puli
bio sam u vojsci i kad bi došao doma svi su me pitali jesi li bio u Parlova u kafiću
meni je trebalo mjesec dana da nađem kafić a nešto manje da upoznam Matu

jedno jutro šetam blizu Katedrale a Mate malo pijan i crven u licu dobacuje konobarici da nije nevina ni sprida ni straga
nisam mu se tada javio ali sam mu se zato u kafiću javio, ono najjači si, bravo majstore...
problem je što vi želite pobjedit, to je ta igra između vas i publike
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Baš sam to komentirao s ukućanima. Čovjek je jednostavno volio živjeti u miru i tišini, daleko od medija i pozornosti. U usporedbi s Matom, Cro Cop je Marko Grubnić po pitanju privlačenja medijske pažnje. Emocija20


U usporedbi s Matom, Cro Cop je Marko Grubnić. Točka.
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#258 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:45:09 PM(UTC)
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upoznao sam Matu Parlova, u ljeto 2004 u Puli
bio sam u vojsci i kad bi došao doma svi su me pitali jesi li bio u Parlova u kafiću
meni je trebalo mjesec dana da nađem kafić a nešto manje da upoznam Matu

jedno jutro šetam blizu Katedrale a Mate malo pijan i crven u licu dobacuje konobarici da nije nevina ni sprida ni straga
nisam mu se tada javio ali sam mu se zato u kafiću javio, ono najjači si, bravo majstore...


Znao ga je moj stari iz vojske Emocija20 Stvarno se jako malo o njemu pričalo po tv-u i novinama - od uvijek!
Meni dan danas žao da je Željko prestao boksat nakon Lewisa jer smatram da je mogao tući i Tysona i Holyefilda i uzet pojas po jednoj od verzija. A love tek koliko je mogao natući, a danas da nema!A takva ljudina od čovjeka i sportaša. My idol Emocija15

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